I posted on their blog at www.igeneric.blogspot.com to be open and transparent about their operations and their procedure. I also asked them to reveal who are their staff and what they can do for people who have been scammed. I also asked them aboout their contract that they want the consumer to sign and their charges.
They did not post my comment, neither did they reply.
I am very disappointed as they appeared to be genuine about helping people in their blog. But as Michael said they are probably wolves in sheep's clothings trying to make a quick buck for themselves.
I am still waiting for them to respond. If they are genuine they will be open and transparent. If they don't respond I leave it to you all to come to your own conclusion.
TIME-SHARE AVENGER
THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL
Thursday, February 25, 2010
Saturday, February 20, 2010
HEROLD INTERNATIONAL-SINGAPORE
Watch out for Herold International located at People's Park Centre SINGAPORE. Just check out their website and you will know that they started have started where other bullshit companies have left off.
I posted on their blogsite www.singaporetimeshare.blogspot.com to do the following:
a. to put the pictures and names of all the people working in their company instead of fake pictures of ang mohs who don't exist.
b. to set out the resume of the director Justin Ho and his employment record
c. to set out the procedures and their costs on their website
d. to put draft contract which they want you to execute.
If they are genuine, they will do as I request. If they don't, then you know the truth.
TRUTH WILL PREVAIL!!!!
Timeshare Avenger
I posted on their blogsite www.singaporetimeshare.blogspot.com to do the following:
a. to put the pictures and names of all the people working in their company instead of fake pictures of ang mohs who don't exist.
b. to set out the resume of the director Justin Ho and his employment record
c. to set out the procedures and their costs on their website
d. to put draft contract which they want you to execute.
If they are genuine, they will do as I request. If they don't, then you know the truth.
TRUTH WILL PREVAIL!!!!
Timeshare Avenger
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
POINTS TO REMEMBER
You have been taken been listening to the salesman talk for almost two hours. The music is blasting in the back ground. You are being told all kinds of fantastic stories of how others had super time or made money out of it. Your resistence is wearing down and they smell blood. You are prepared to do anything just to get out of there. Familiar? Follow the pointers below and safe yourself the torture.
1. When you receive the call saying that you have won a prize or a free trip, ask them where they got your particulars and number from. You have to be firm and insist on knowing the callers name and the company name. Ask them how you had won the prize and which competition you had entered. They will say that you were picked up randomly either based on your cell phone number or some stupid competition which never existed. This is simply a lie. They would have received your information from other time share companies or from leads they buy from brokers. Your information together with thousands of others are bought by these time share companies or time share related companies. They are passed onto the call centre operators who will start making the calls. They will pretend to be from the time share company itself but they are not. The more questions you ask of them the higher the chances of them hanging up on you. If you are not in the mood to have lengthy conversations with the person, just tell them that you are not interested.
REMEMBER: IF THERE IS SUCH THING AS A FREE GIFT, IT WILL COME WITH A COSTS WHICH WOULD MANY TIMES WORTH THE FREE GIFT.
2. If for some reason you are persuaded to attend the offices, do not be overawed by the size or the expensive renovations. It is all part of the scam. Most of all do not be taken in by the suave and well dressed sales man or the pretty sweet talking saleswoman. They are all part of the show. After the general presentation which is often called the general tour, you will targeted individually and brought in for a specific tour. This where all the bullshit is sold to you. You should insist on recording what is being said to you. Most cellphones now have the capability of recording. They will not allow you do so for sure because what they tell and what you finally get is totally different. Insist on recording and if they have nothing hide then the must allow you. If they don't then you know it is a scam. Stand up and walk out. They cannot stop you.
REMEMBER: MOST OF WHAT THEY TELL IS REALLY SALES TALK. INSIST ON TAPE RECORDING WHAT IS BEING SAID TO YOU. IF THEY ARE GENUINE THEY WILL ALLOW YOU DO SO. IF NOT JUST WALK OUT OF THE PLACE.
3. If for some reason you are swayed into signing the agreement, read what you sign after you go back home and see if what they had told you is in fact reflected in the agreement. You have a five day cooling off period. It is best that you consult a lawyer on the agreement that you signed. It is a contract and a legal document. No matter what it is better that you seek legal advice and on the implications once you are out of there. You rather pay the lawyer his consulation fee than lose thousands of dollars. Once you find that the contract does not state the things that they promise you, please go an terminate the agreement immediately and ask for a full refund. They are not to deduct anything. There is no reason for that if it is within the cooling off period.
REMEMBER: YOU HAVE 5 DAYS TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT. SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AS IT IS A CONTRACT. DEMAND FULL REFUND WITHOUT ANY DEDUCTIONS.
4. If you wish to terminate the agreement after the cooling of period, you might encounter some problems. You should seek legal advice immediately. In the alternative you can go Consumer Associations and lodge a complain. You should set out clearly what was told to you and what has been delivered to you. Do your due diligence on the company see if their products are real and that could also form the basis of your termination. See a lawyer and not any other companies which might entice you. They are all part of the same scam.
REMEMBER: APPROACH LAWYERS DIRECTLY OR CONSUMER ASSOCIATION. DO NOT APPROACH OTHER COMPANIES WHO PROVIDE TERMINATION SERVICES.
5. Always beware of upgrading and changing the contracts. It always more money out of your pocket with little or no benefit to you. Upgrading something which is worthless to start with, is merely throwing your money away.
BE FULLY AWARE WHAT YOU ARE BUYING. MAKE SURE THE CONTRACT STATES CLEARLY AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU BOUGHT. MAKE SURE YOU SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. IT IS A CONTRACT AND THE LAW IS APPLICABLE TO IT.
1. When you receive the call saying that you have won a prize or a free trip, ask them where they got your particulars and number from. You have to be firm and insist on knowing the callers name and the company name. Ask them how you had won the prize and which competition you had entered. They will say that you were picked up randomly either based on your cell phone number or some stupid competition which never existed. This is simply a lie. They would have received your information from other time share companies or from leads they buy from brokers. Your information together with thousands of others are bought by these time share companies or time share related companies. They are passed onto the call centre operators who will start making the calls. They will pretend to be from the time share company itself but they are not. The more questions you ask of them the higher the chances of them hanging up on you. If you are not in the mood to have lengthy conversations with the person, just tell them that you are not interested.
REMEMBER: IF THERE IS SUCH THING AS A FREE GIFT, IT WILL COME WITH A COSTS WHICH WOULD MANY TIMES WORTH THE FREE GIFT.
2. If for some reason you are persuaded to attend the offices, do not be overawed by the size or the expensive renovations. It is all part of the scam. Most of all do not be taken in by the suave and well dressed sales man or the pretty sweet talking saleswoman. They are all part of the show. After the general presentation which is often called the general tour, you will targeted individually and brought in for a specific tour. This where all the bullshit is sold to you. You should insist on recording what is being said to you. Most cellphones now have the capability of recording. They will not allow you do so for sure because what they tell and what you finally get is totally different. Insist on recording and if they have nothing hide then the must allow you. If they don't then you know it is a scam. Stand up and walk out. They cannot stop you.
REMEMBER: MOST OF WHAT THEY TELL IS REALLY SALES TALK. INSIST ON TAPE RECORDING WHAT IS BEING SAID TO YOU. IF THEY ARE GENUINE THEY WILL ALLOW YOU DO SO. IF NOT JUST WALK OUT OF THE PLACE.
3. If for some reason you are swayed into signing the agreement, read what you sign after you go back home and see if what they had told you is in fact reflected in the agreement. You have a five day cooling off period. It is best that you consult a lawyer on the agreement that you signed. It is a contract and a legal document. No matter what it is better that you seek legal advice and on the implications once you are out of there. You rather pay the lawyer his consulation fee than lose thousands of dollars. Once you find that the contract does not state the things that they promise you, please go an terminate the agreement immediately and ask for a full refund. They are not to deduct anything. There is no reason for that if it is within the cooling off period.
REMEMBER: YOU HAVE 5 DAYS TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT. SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AS IT IS A CONTRACT. DEMAND FULL REFUND WITHOUT ANY DEDUCTIONS.
4. If you wish to terminate the agreement after the cooling of period, you might encounter some problems. You should seek legal advice immediately. In the alternative you can go Consumer Associations and lodge a complain. You should set out clearly what was told to you and what has been delivered to you. Do your due diligence on the company see if their products are real and that could also form the basis of your termination. See a lawyer and not any other companies which might entice you. They are all part of the same scam.
REMEMBER: APPROACH LAWYERS DIRECTLY OR CONSUMER ASSOCIATION. DO NOT APPROACH OTHER COMPANIES WHO PROVIDE TERMINATION SERVICES.
5. Always beware of upgrading and changing the contracts. It always more money out of your pocket with little or no benefit to you. Upgrading something which is worthless to start with, is merely throwing your money away.
BE FULLY AWARE WHAT YOU ARE BUYING. MAKE SURE THE CONTRACT STATES CLEARLY AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU BOUGHT. MAKE SURE YOU SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. IT IS A CONTRACT AND THE LAW IS APPLICABLE TO IT.
TIMESHARES - INVESTMENTS OR SCAMS?
Timeshare clubs and other simliar clubs which promise you a wonderful week or two in paradise every year are nothing but a myth. They sell you a dream which often turns into a night mare and you regret ever falling for the "Congratulations. You have won a holiday for two. But you must come to our office to collect it. Please bring your spouse along." phone pitch.
Did you know that the call comes from a call centre and not from the office itself?
Did you know that the operators are given specific scripts by the time share companies which they have to follow?
Did you ever wonder how your cellphone number ever got into thier hands to start with and how they know you full name?
Have you ever stopped to wonder how you would have won a prize when you did not participate in any lucky draws or competitions?
Did you know that the timeshare and the related industries are worth billions of dollars and you spend your hard earned money for a piece of paper which states you are a member and a plastic card which promises you heaven on earth.? Their total costs less than a dollar. Your loss - thousands.
The time share scam itself has spawned many other related industries. You have time share terminators who claim to have special inside knowledge about the time shares companies to which only they have access to. You pay for "legal fees". Have you ever wondered whether they are really lawyers? Why do they not arrange meetings in the law firms if they are genuinely interested helping you resolve your situation legally. Why are you paying them money instead of the law firm?
Then there is the convert your timeshare into real property or into other tangible assets, like wine, animals where your timeshare club value is absorbed as part of the payment and you pay thousands of dollars again. They promise you incredible returns which would stun even wizards of economics. Have you ever been shown the assets or the realistic projections of how they intend to make the money to return you, your investment plus the phenomenal profits? Did you know that there is a risk clause in all the contracts which means you take the risk and they guarantee you nothing, not even the money you paid to them, let alone the value of your time share membership?.
This blog is created for all of you victims to vent your grievances and exchange your views. I use the word victims because anyone who believes the promises of paradise and pays money out to these scammers is a victim. You end up paying thousands of dollars which you could have spent on your loved ones and continue to pay yearly subscription to feed the luxurious lifestyle of these wolves who prey on innocent people.
Remember in the valley of the blind, the man with one eye is king. We have been blinded by greed and the empty promises of these suave sales man in their three piece suits and posh offices. Let us now share our experiences and open our eyes to reality. Some of us are still blind and some of us are just getting the vision of the bare facts. Together we can stop this scammers and stop wasting our money. Rather we give it to charity then to fund scammers who will use our money to create more scams sipping champagne in their jacuzzis.
UNITED WE STAND !!!
GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS!!!
Timeshare Avenger
Did you know that the call comes from a call centre and not from the office itself?
Did you know that the operators are given specific scripts by the time share companies which they have to follow?
Did you ever wonder how your cellphone number ever got into thier hands to start with and how they know you full name?
Have you ever stopped to wonder how you would have won a prize when you did not participate in any lucky draws or competitions?
Did you know that the timeshare and the related industries are worth billions of dollars and you spend your hard earned money for a piece of paper which states you are a member and a plastic card which promises you heaven on earth.? Their total costs less than a dollar. Your loss - thousands.
The time share scam itself has spawned many other related industries. You have time share terminators who claim to have special inside knowledge about the time shares companies to which only they have access to. You pay for "legal fees". Have you ever wondered whether they are really lawyers? Why do they not arrange meetings in the law firms if they are genuinely interested helping you resolve your situation legally. Why are you paying them money instead of the law firm?
Then there is the convert your timeshare into real property or into other tangible assets, like wine, animals where your timeshare club value is absorbed as part of the payment and you pay thousands of dollars again. They promise you incredible returns which would stun even wizards of economics. Have you ever been shown the assets or the realistic projections of how they intend to make the money to return you, your investment plus the phenomenal profits? Did you know that there is a risk clause in all the contracts which means you take the risk and they guarantee you nothing, not even the money you paid to them, let alone the value of your time share membership?.
This blog is created for all of you victims to vent your grievances and exchange your views. I use the word victims because anyone who believes the promises of paradise and pays money out to these scammers is a victim. You end up paying thousands of dollars which you could have spent on your loved ones and continue to pay yearly subscription to feed the luxurious lifestyle of these wolves who prey on innocent people.
Remember in the valley of the blind, the man with one eye is king. We have been blinded by greed and the empty promises of these suave sales man in their three piece suits and posh offices. Let us now share our experiences and open our eyes to reality. Some of us are still blind and some of us are just getting the vision of the bare facts. Together we can stop this scammers and stop wasting our money. Rather we give it to charity then to fund scammers who will use our money to create more scams sipping champagne in their jacuzzis.
UNITED WE STAND !!!
GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS!!!
Timeshare Avenger
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